Strykers ordered today

Just ordered my Strykers from Dan @ DC Perf today, along with a cam and some other goodies. Looks like the 522 stroker w/Stryker heads will be realized a little sooner than originally thought. That would be due to #4 saying hasta la vista blake! So, Im saying FCKIT and throwing the final $15000@ this beast. You can all hereby BAKER act me for my actions, no really you have my permission, Im sick and I cant help it! :)

You'll love them. A superior head to anything out there.

Anyone know what I should pick up to the wheels with a full forged bottom end, stroked crank, comp cam, and these heads? DC said they had done this setup only on VIPERS. Ive heard rumors of 200+ to the wheels. If anything close to that they will definately be worth the ticket. I told them I was targeting 1000 rwhp and they told me to leave the Paxton on and i should be able to reach that power level with this setup.

Just ordered my Strykers from Dan @ DC Perf today, along with a cam and some other goodies. Looks like the 522 stroker w/Stryker heads will be realized a little sooner than originally thought. That would be due to #4 saying hasta la vista blake! So, Im saying FCKIT and throwing the final $15000@ this beast. You can all hereby BAKER act me for my actions, no really you have my permission, Im sick and I cant help it! :)

Well, I'm stoked for you, but sorry that it came to that because of the untimely demise of #4... :(

I'll be really anxious to here your thoughts on the combination, it looks like I'm going to be able to order mine real soon too... :eek:

Cant wait to see the result...i can see traction problem...

Oh but what a good problem to have! Already have the slicks on.....Trying to figure out a way to install a smaller rear brake setup so I dont have to keep taking off the rear brakes @ the track. Although I couldnt believe how little the brakes feel minus the rears. I swear it feels like stock. Im hoping to see 900+ rwhp whenits done....before the NOS.

1000 may be tough because you're going through an automatic transmission. I don't believe an extra 22" + the internals is going to raise your HP that much. The heads, upgraded rocker gear (not sure which one you're going with) and increased boost is where you'll get the power. I think a non boosted viper made mid 600's at the rear wheels with heads/cam/computer upgrade. You'll need to gain an additional 350 from the paxton. Granted, the heads will have multiple factor in gains with the boost. I think you could get the 900's, but 1000 is an awful big number. It took john MULTIPLE pulls and tweaking to eek out a 1000 number on Big Walt's build.

If you haven't already gotten a 1 piece driveshaft, do it. Get a hoop around it. Be prepared to upgrade the rearend to. 35 spline C-clips will never last should you ever hookup with that type of power. Your options are to get a 35 spline power lock, mark williams axles and new ends. With the new ends you can put on a smaller pair of brakes so you can fit a slick on there. This assumes you want to race the truck down the 1/4 mile.

Just random food for thought.

I think unless he stays outta the titty bars he shouldnt get but about 450rwhp!LOLLOLL :D

I couldnt believe how little the brakes feel minus the rears.

I can't stress enough that you don't even want to ATTEMPT a no rear brake situation if you build this thing. Your front brakes trying to stop a 5500lb blob going 140mph will catch fire and bye bye SRT. It isn't just the speed, its the limited shutdown area you'll likely have.

You have to realize when you hit the brakes the weight transfer to the front wheel is HUGE. Making that 5500lb a multiple factor.

I was told that the comp coupe cam wasnt the best one for a forced induction application. I thought about adding one on to mine but was advised it wasnt the best choice. Sorry again Blake about your piston. So we have issues with #3 (multiple owners), #2 (me), and #4 (blake).

Who wants to bet either a #1 or #5 is next up for some unknowing owner?

Yeah, since at the time it was goinglike 103 or so....big difference. Mark williams huh.....how much will that add to the bill?

Oh it will definately all STOP if I have to stay out of the stripclub!STINKER....I might just have to corrupt you a little bit...but your ol lady will kick my ass.
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Nah ! Hell no! Corrupt me! She dont care as long as I dont bring them home! :D

Honestly, not sure. I'm going 40 spline and detroit locker route. There is a thread in which FstJack provided a ton of information as he went through all this WAY before I had to. You can likely search his user name and "dana" to come up with the thread.

My "guess" would be parts total around 2-3k. This isn't counting labor.

Blake I have heard of vipers making around 900rwhp or so with a stroker and SC'r, I'll try to find it. But that was without stryker heads also.

If you want a dyno number, I'm sure you can GET 1000, but you won't be able to run it very long. You have to realize they're using a 6 speed instead of an automatic which makes a huge difference IMO. You would need to make 1200hp (at least) to get 1000 at the rear wheels. 700hp is a lot of ponnies.

this is true, forgot aboutt the auto :rolleyes: but yeah it should still make some serious ponies, more than enough to move a 4 door family suv down the road!LOLOL :D :p

I'm actually VERY interested in the results of a buildup like this. If anything, just to compare it to mine. I left mine at 500" and will be using a massive fvcking blower :)

Sorry anytime I mention my buildup I feel that a cuss word is needed before mentioning the power adder :). It just sounds better. Especially when an adjective is put in front of said cuss word haha.

Yeeah....but you guys are forgetting ONE small word......NITROUS!

I figure Im using up all of my bad luck now.....so it should be smooth sailin after this....at least thats what BOOMER keeps tellin me. haha He's like "your the dream customer man.....you dont give a ****, you just want it NOW!Here's my CC number! when will it be here????" He's right! Im totally and completely ADDICTED. I guess its better than a crack habit!

Remember too Blake, with the Vec II you can do many cards , one for low boost and pump gas for normal driving, one for high boost, and one for race with say c-16 race fuel and get a higher hp number for the track times :D

Exactly, that is why I'm using it on mine. If I really wanted to make a race truck and call it a street truck I would have done some different things on my build for performance. However, I fully plan to drive the piss out of this truck.

I did forget about nitrous. There is nothing I hate more than nitrous :). Nitrous is just like *****, once you hit it, you don't want to stop. If you hit it to much it ends up costing a fortune

lets get these beasts done boys




This crown is getting heavy........ :D


Ok..went to DC performance today....(what a shock).....going with a new pulley for the SC'er....figure 10psi on stcok internals......yeah boy come out here on this ledge with me.....

As Silver says...Detonation causes problems not boost.... :D ....Chris Jensen thinks he has the tune to keep me alive at 10 psi.....

(in best guns-n-roses voice) Welcome to the jungle, we've got fun and games......la.ala la la la

-Red

Well boys. My good news is My crank finally came in today. The motor will be done this week. Now...here't the bad news. Just got off the phone with Jeff at JM. My Strykers are delayed. I was supposed to get them last week. The casting co screwed up and only sent him gen 2s. So...I'm still another week or two out on the heads. I'm sooooo tired of waiting....

lets get these beasts done boys




This crown is getting heavy........ :D


Ok..went to DC performance today....(what a shock).....going with a new pulley for the SC'er....figure 10psi on stcok internals......yeah boy come out here on this ledge with me.....

As Silver says...Detonation causes problems not boost.... :D ....Chris Jensen thinks he has the tune to keep me alive at 10 psi.....

You must have to push your balls around in a wheelbarrow... :eek: :eek: :eek: ;) :p

Well boys. My good news is My crank finally came in today. The motor will be done this week. Now...here't the bad news. Just got off the phone with Jeff at JM. My Strykers are delayed. I was supposed to get them last week. The casting co screwed up and only sent him gen 2s. So...I'm still another week or two out on the heads. I'm sooooo tired of waiting....

Man you gotta be bummed...why is everyone of these builds taking so long? I guess if we were doing small Chevy's it would be easier and faster...but near as much fun when it's done, huh?

You must have to push your balls around in a wheelbarrow... :eek: :eek: :eek: ;) :p


Nope....I just spray WD-40 on the bottom of them and let them drag behind me....

Nope....I just spray WD-40 on the bottom of them and let them drag behind me....

Well, just don't get out in the desert, that WD-40 ain't gonna make them splinter proof... :eek: :p :rolleyes: :cool: ;)

Well, just don't get out in the desert, that WD-40 ain't gonna make them splinter proof... :eek: :p :rolleyes: :cool: ;)


Sickness' wife has them all leathery from all the rubbin'...I'll be fine....

Nitrous is just like *****, once you hit it, you don't want to stop. If you hit it to much it ends up costing a fortune


I think Nitrous is like a hot girl with an STD. You know you want to hit it, but you are afraid of the consequences.

Sickness' wife has them all leathery from all the rubbin'...I'll be fine....

I'll remind you that you said that...LMAO!!!

No gay comments please:

Is your rearend still stock nowwhat?

No gay comments please:

Is your rearend still stock nowwhat?


homo................

Hehee....sorry couldn't resist...



yep stock rear.....The tires spin together during the burn outs.......Figure I will replace if I have to.....but if it ain't broke.......

As long as you get some water on them to do the burnouts I think you'll be fine, to a point. If you get one tire spinning you're fvcked. I'm curious where the breaking point is on the rear. When looking at the spyder gears, they are pretty damn beefy, but still only two in there vs 4 with a power lock.

As long as you get some water on them to do the burnouts I think you'll be fine, to a point. If you get one tire spinning you're fvcked. I'm curious where the breaking point is on the rear. When looking at the spyder gears, they are pretty damn beefy, but still only two in there vs 4 with a power lock.


keep in mind during my burnouts vs. Vprpwr....I am brake free in the back....like a line lock....that may be helping the life cycle...

Mike, you should play the ****ing lottery buddy. You and Tim are the luckiest mother****ers alive with these trucks. Me.....its murphy's law times 10! Wilder's law! Everything than can blow up WILL! good luck with 10#'s.....I'll see ya there but with the forged interns.
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Hell, I just want a truck that will go into drive :(

(Yes, mike I'll call your guy tomorrow) I just want to have first eye evidence as to what is going on first.

Mike, you should play the ****ing lottery buddy. You and Tim are the luckiest mother****ers alive with these trucks. Me.....its murphy's law times 10! Wilder's law! Everything than can blow up WILL! good luck with 10#'s.....I'll see ya there but with the forged interns.
B

don't jynx me................... :cool: :D

lets get these beasts done boys




This crown is getting heavy........ :D


Ok..went to DC performance today....(what a shock).....going with a new pulley for the SC'er....figure 10psi on stcok internals......yeah boy come out here on this ledge with me.....

As Silver says...Detonation causes problems not boost.... :D ....Chris Jensen thinks he has the tune to keep me alive at 10 psi.....

You might try running straight Methanol. And by this I mean the real stuff, not windshield washer fluid.

how about some pics of the stryker heads assembly? :)

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You might try running straight Methanol. And by this I mean the real stuff, not windshield washer fluid.


ha....

actually straight meth does not work as well as a 50/50 blend with distilled water.....washer fluid is like 20% max.....

Now on the other hand..I hear running a little nitro-methane through the water meth system will get you some hp.....

Look nice. :) :cool: I am surprised that they don't have a damper spring.

ha....

actually straight meth does not work as well as a 50/50 blend with distilled water.....washer fluid is like 20% max.....

Now on the other hand..I hear running a little nitro-methane through the water meth system will get you some hp.....

That one I will argue with you at length. I have run Water, Water/Methanol Mixture, and Straight Methanol, all in the same vehicle under the same conditions. Water ****ing sucked. The mixture was a little better, but I still could not run as high of boost pressure as the straight methanol. I would start to get detonation at around 25 to 27 psi with the mixture. Ran up to 40 psi on the straight stuff with no detonation. All water does to the methanol is dilute it so it doesn't burn. You also get greater cooling effect with straight methanol.

Your turn. :D :p

What kind of motor was that Silver?

That one I will argue with you at length. I have run Water, Water/Methanol Mixture, and Straight Methanol, all in the same vehicle under the same conditions. Water ****ing sucked. The mixture was a little better, but I still could not run as high of boost pressure as the straight methanol. I would start to get detonation at around 25 to 27 psi with the mixture. Ran up to 40 psi on the straight stuff with no detonation. All water does to the methanol is dilute it so it doesn't burn. You also get greater cooling effect with straight methanol.

Your turn. :D :p

Well you are right and wrong.. :D ..straight meth may give you better detonation protection but as far as heat soak....

50 - 50 water / meth blend has better cooling abilities that straight......with out question....

tag your it....

What kind of motor was that Silver?

2.6 L Datsun.

Well you are right and wrong.. :D ..straight meth may give you better detonation protection but as far as heat soak....

50 - 50 water / meth blend has better cooling abilities that straight......with out question....

tag your it....

On a nice warm day, spray water on one arm and alcohol on the other and see which one feels the coolest. The alcohol will evaporate quicker and be cooler which means it also cools the intake charge more.

Next. :)

On a nice warm day, spray water on one arm and alcohol on the other and see which one feels the coolest. The alcohol will evaporate quicker and be cooler which means it also cools the intake charge more.

Next. :)


It is counter intuitive I know but all tuners as well as the guys at Snow performance will tell you the 50/50 has better cooling effects....go to www.snowperformance.net

Where did you get the bigger pulley and what was the cost? I'd like to go to 10# and leave it at that with mine but....you know how it goes. I swear 10# is all I want to run.

Do the heads come with the springs and valves? If not, what would be the best spring/rockers/valves/rods you can also combine with the heads? Thanks.

Do the heads come with the springs and valves? If not, what would be the best spring/rockers/valves/rods you can also combine with the heads? Thanks.

Yes, they do.

Yes, they do.

Of course if you are going to spring for a set of Strykers, you might as well pick up a set of shaft mounted rockers, hardened push rods and upgrade the lifters. ;)

Yeah thats what DC set up for me......except the lifters, any favorites out there?? Hey Wommy, I saw Oliver rods ...I think they have me set up for Eagle rods and Ross Pistons (ceramic topcoat and Diamond somethin on the sides). Any preference in the setup or six one way half dozen the other.....keeping in mind the same compression. Mine have a 7cc dish. JH gave me these as his 522cid setup.
Thanks..
Oh and by the way...wouldnt you have to tune differently for the Nitromethane setup as opposed to the 50/50 mix? I run that **** in my gas RC cars....I have one that goes 100mph.