While I was entering the interstate, I noticed a Lightning behind me already on the interstate moving at normal speeds. I merged at about 90mph and held it there for the L to catch up. He must have had some mods because there was some kind of aftermarket ram air scoop. I was in the far left lane and moved over to let him pass; well I wanted to see what he would do. So he gets about two truck lengths in front of me then hits the gas. I could tell because of all the smoke that cam from the side pipes. I down shifted into 4th and took off. I hit 5th and almost red lined it. By the time I got into 6th I was right beside him. That’s when he backed off. I looked at the spedo and I was over 140mph. I was catching up to him but I guess the L could not take anymore. What do you think?
Is it a kill?
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I would not count it as a kill,
What it is is 2 guys going way too fast on a public road.
If I was in the Lightning I would have backed off at that speed also.
Top speeds have been published on both these trucks, you weren't proving anything other than a lack of knowing when enough is enough.
I'm not trying to rain on your parade, I'm sure you had a blast doing it.
But I have a good friend who is a paramedic, and his stories are not pretty.
I just feel a public road is not the place, if you want to race do it at a track where conditions are a lot better than an interstate which could have potholes, grooves, and worst of all--other drivers that didn't see you or expect you to go blasting by them at almost 100mph faster than the flow of traffic.
You may have complete control and confidence, but you never know what may happen.
What it is is 2 guys going way too fast on a public road.
If I was in the Lightning I would have backed off at that speed also.
Top speeds have been published on both these trucks, you weren't proving anything other than a lack of knowing when enough is enough.
I'm not trying to rain on your parade, I'm sure you had a blast doing it.
But I have a good friend who is a paramedic, and his stories are not pretty.
I just feel a public road is not the place, if you want to race do it at a track where conditions are a lot better than an interstate which could have potholes, grooves, and worst of all--other drivers that didn't see you or expect you to go blasting by them at almost 100mph faster than the flow of traffic.
You may have complete control and confidence, but you never know what may happen.
Alberta-SRT,
You are not raining on my parade; I understand your concern and have seen the same as your friend. I used to drive a tow truck and had to drag many cars on the roll back. I was very aware of my surroundings and we were alone, as was the interstate. If I would have seen one car, I would have backed off much earlier. BTW the truck got there so fast, I didn’t realize it.
You are not raining on my parade; I understand your concern and have seen the same as your friend. I used to drive a tow truck and had to drag many cars on the roll back. I was very aware of my surroundings and we were alone, as was the interstate. If I would have seen one car, I would have backed off much earlier. BTW the truck got there so fast, I didn’t realize it.
I will bet it's a kill story on another site. I can see it now........."I'm just cruisin' down the interstate when all of the sudden I see this SRT merge onto the road in front of me. I know he saw me because he sped up to like 100 mph to try and get away from me. Well, that's when I started going ape **** and tell my buddy I have to race him. I quickly catch him and procede to hand him his AZZ up to 140+. I slowed down to give him the thumbs up and he ran off like a ***** with an overpriced Dodge. "New King" indeed. My L is stock except for intake, chip, pulley, exhaust, and gear."
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stock????? LOL
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Good to know the road was open and you have the sense to know when to play and when not to. A lot of people don't.
These trucks do climb up there quick, I bet it felt great to open it up like that.
I've only taken mine up to about 125-130 so far, on a good road with no traffic. It was as stable there as it is at 70.
Good to know the road was open and you have the sense to know when to play and when not to. A lot of people don't.
These trucks do climb up there quick, I bet it felt great to open it up like that.
I've only taken mine up to about 125-130 so far, on a good road with no traffic. It was as stable there as it is at 70.
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My L is stock except for intake, chip, pulley, exhaust, and gear."
BTW, I've only been to 120 so far, and it gets there pretty quick. Just not as quick as my other truck.
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My L is stock except for intake, chip, pulley, exhaust, and gear."
LMAO...mauiSRT/10 said:stock????? LOL
BTW, I've only been to 120 so far, and it gets there pretty quick. Just not as quick as my other truck.
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Yes but the sad part is they can get all those parts for about 2500-3000 and it makes the L into a low 12 second piece or better.mauiSRT/10 said:stock????? LOL
They can get parts............
They get support from SVT Ford...........
They get a SVT magazine with information and sources............
I cannot get any parts, I have to have everything fabricated at great expense and time.
I get no support from Dodge what so ever.
This truck was introduced with great fanfare and accolades by DaimlerChrysler, and that is where it all stopped. I have purchased many other performance vehicles over the years. With respect to all these cars and trucks i have never felt the way about a vehicle that I feel about this Dodge. This stems from partially from my experiance with the Dodge factory after the camshaft recall. My truck ran very good when I took delivery. After the recall work was done the power and driveabily was less. When I returned to the dealer I was told that they did in fact reflash the PCM. This was later denied. I immediatly returned the truck to the dealer that performed the recall campaign. They drove, scanned, reflashed the PCM. They kept the truck for several more days and said that it would "learn" a better tune up and run better. It did not. I had the truck dynoed at WestCoast Viper. It had 406 RWHP. This was about 23 RWHP less than the norm. I contacted the factory seeking help and was told to take it to another dealer which I did. The Dealer kept it for 2 days and told me that they did not recognize my dyno sheet as valid. I asked them for their dyno sheet and they told me they did not have one, but the "truck was fine". They said my view was subjective although it was supported with documentation ( Dyno Print out). Their view was not suported by any standardized test. I recontacted the factory and was told by the customer service representative that management had told him "do not to talk to me any more". I asked him if this was an across the board policy regarding future contact between myself and DaimlerChrysler? He said that management did want anyone from the factory talking to me. This is an attitude that just baffles me. I might expect this from a swap meet vendor not an not a fortune 500 multinational corporation. In the last 6 years I have purchased 7 new vehicles and have been satisfied with them all. We are going to replace my wifes 1998 Maxima SE and she said she likes the Chrysler Crossfire, I really like the Chrysler 300C SRT-8. With a company that does not want to talk to me there is no chance that I will be buying another DaimlerChrysler vehicle. I do not know what my wife will end up liking, probably a BMW or Infinity. BMW and Infinity are noted for their customer satisfaction. I am looking hard at the Caddy CTS-V with the LS-6 400 HP motor. There are a gazillion parts for a Chevrolet motor. This car comes with the same T56 6 SPD that is in the SRT-10 and for about 8 grand you can have 600+ real HP. I have observed that in talking with other SRT-10 owners that I am not alone in the way I feel about the truck. This is born out in the number of used trucks available for sale at the present time and the deep discounts that are being offered on new SRT-10's at this time. When I bought the truck I had not been this excited about a car or truck for a long time. I still love the truck but after the way I was treated by the factory I have an ambivalence that will not go away. I needed to vent a little as i have been frustrated about this issue for some time now.
My point is that there are many different ways to have fun. This board is one of the reasons I have kept the Dodge. I have met many great people and a few very special ones. The information that is passed along ranges from the valuable to the ridiculous. I check this board just as often as I check me email.
Thank you all for your posts and input...Jack
fstjack,
Your post is a little off topic but let's see what we can do. Dodge is one of the sponsors of the V-10 nationals next week in Shreveport, La. I'll try to find some of those guys to see what they know. When I get back (next Thursday), I'll send you my computer so you can re-dyno and try to find that lost HP. I need to work on a front bumper delete project anyway. My computer has 4 stickers on it. The last one has number 467AE on it. What's on yours? Also, I will send a note with your info to one of the PVO guys I met at the SRT-4 nationals. Sometimes he replies. Sometimes not. It's worth a try.
Your post is a little off topic but let's see what we can do. Dodge is one of the sponsors of the V-10 nationals next week in Shreveport, La. I'll try to find some of those guys to see what they know. When I get back (next Thursday), I'll send you my computer so you can re-dyno and try to find that lost HP. I need to work on a front bumper delete project anyway. My computer has 4 stickers on it. The last one has number 467AE on it. What's on yours? Also, I will send a note with your info to one of the PVO guys I met at the SRT-4 nationals. Sometimes he replies. Sometimes not. It's worth a try.
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Steve, Your concern and generosity overwhelms me. The post was way off topic. You can deleat it or move it to it's own thread as you wish. I have written that post many times over the past months and have not sent it. Today I just let it fly. Your offer of the use of your PCM is very generous and much appreciated. As is the bringing up of the situation to the PVO people. I could have had WestCoast Viper reprogram my PCM. The cost is minimal $500.00.
I have not done so as I am waiting for the Paxton supercharger and there is no point in doing anything for such a short period of time as programming will probably have to be redone after installation of blower. When I had the truck dynoed at WC Viper (406RWHP) the AFR was 9.8 to 1 at WOT. I have since had a set of custom made (coated inside & out) stepped (1.5/8x1.3/4, 29" tube length) merged collector headers made. I am using 1 3" high flow cat on each bank with O2 sensors in proper proximity to cat biscuit. I have a Magnaflow cat back with a one of stainless custom made Bassani dual 3" in & out muffler with X crossover inside. This system is linked together with 6 stainless V band clamps. I have also installed an LM-1 wideband O2 reader. The mixture is now 11.7 to 1 at WOT. It is still a little rich but much better. The headers & exhaust made a huge difference in the way the truck runs. The top end is about as it was was as received. The bottom end and response is not as good due to timing. Last month the Dodge Truck World forum guys put together a dyno day at J&D Performance in Ontario, CA. 3 Pulls and a picture of your truck on the dyno for 35.00. Trev turned me on to it, so we went. They have a Mustang Dyno. My numbers for 2 pulls were within .2 on Hp & TQ so that was all I needed. They were 442.8 HP & 464.8 TQ. I can tell by the AFR #'s that there is more there by leaning it out. The way it feels the timing curve is very slow. These are real #'s and would correspond to 464.9 HP & 488 TQ on a Dynojet. The way the truck runs is not an issue at this point with what has been done and what I am going to do. I am frustrated with I perceive as DaimlerChrysler's bad attidude. I have been in business for myself most of my life (retired now, age 57) and am used to getting things done expeditiously and the lack of parts drives me crazy. I must remember that with exclusivity there comes a price. With regard to the factory I do not like being treated like a red headed step child. My feelings were hurt. I was in the fuel injection/carburation/electronics business and my main focus and priority was customer satisfaction. Quality and equity were essential partners. And to accomplish this communication had to be the number 1 priority for myself and my staff. That does not mean refusing to discuss issues with clients. When I had a problem with a job/car/customer my number 1 priority was to resolve that issue to the clients satisfaction as quickly as possible. I try to treat everyone in my life with dignity and respect and expect that in return. Having you you respond in the way that you did has made my day. Steve you are a real gentleman
I am sure that you will lead the field in getting some more good low #'s at the Nat's as you have done so already. As far as I know yours is the first and only SRT-10 in the 12's. On a real drag strip. With real timers. I am going out on a 5 day fishing trip leaving monday noon and will be back Sat. I will look forward to seeing how you have made out. I am sorry that I will have to miss the daily info that will come down on all the hot rod dodges. Be good to your self and be safe..Jack
I have not done so as I am waiting for the Paxton supercharger and there is no point in doing anything for such a short period of time as programming will probably have to be redone after installation of blower. When I had the truck dynoed at WC Viper (406RWHP) the AFR was 9.8 to 1 at WOT. I have since had a set of custom made (coated inside & out) stepped (1.5/8x1.3/4, 29" tube length) merged collector headers made. I am using 1 3" high flow cat on each bank with O2 sensors in proper proximity to cat biscuit. I have a Magnaflow cat back with a one of stainless custom made Bassani dual 3" in & out muffler with X crossover inside. This system is linked together with 6 stainless V band clamps. I have also installed an LM-1 wideband O2 reader. The mixture is now 11.7 to 1 at WOT. It is still a little rich but much better. The headers & exhaust made a huge difference in the way the truck runs. The top end is about as it was was as received. The bottom end and response is not as good due to timing. Last month the Dodge Truck World forum guys put together a dyno day at J&D Performance in Ontario, CA. 3 Pulls and a picture of your truck on the dyno for 35.00. Trev turned me on to it, so we went. They have a Mustang Dyno. My numbers for 2 pulls were within .2 on Hp & TQ so that was all I needed. They were 442.8 HP & 464.8 TQ. I can tell by the AFR #'s that there is more there by leaning it out. The way it feels the timing curve is very slow. These are real #'s and would correspond to 464.9 HP & 488 TQ on a Dynojet. The way the truck runs is not an issue at this point with what has been done and what I am going to do. I am frustrated with I perceive as DaimlerChrysler's bad attidude. I have been in business for myself most of my life (retired now, age 57) and am used to getting things done expeditiously and the lack of parts drives me crazy. I must remember that with exclusivity there comes a price. With regard to the factory I do not like being treated like a red headed step child. My feelings were hurt. I was in the fuel injection/carburation/electronics business and my main focus and priority was customer satisfaction. Quality and equity were essential partners. And to accomplish this communication had to be the number 1 priority for myself and my staff. That does not mean refusing to discuss issues with clients. When I had a problem with a job/car/customer my number 1 priority was to resolve that issue to the clients satisfaction as quickly as possible. I try to treat everyone in my life with dignity and respect and expect that in return. Having you you respond in the way that you did has made my day. Steve you are a real gentleman
I am sure that you will lead the field in getting some more good low #'s at the Nat's as you have done so already. As far as I know yours is the first and only SRT-10 in the 12's. On a real drag strip. With real timers. I am going out on a 5 day fishing trip leaving monday noon and will be back Sat. I will look forward to seeing how you have made out. I am sorry that I will have to miss the daily info that will come down on all the hot rod dodges. Be good to your self and be safe..Jack
Jack and i have been in contact for some time now and i trust everything he says. H e knows his sh-t. So i am not here to start a pissing contest with all the open minded gentleman so i won't. But regardless of setup and what's on the truck mine is slower that what a stock truck should be- bottom line! Much less a 50 thousand dollar truck- I am in the same boat with Jack and he is refering to me ,in part, my srt is for sale. Extremely frustrating that,and this is just an example,- but i bought in to all the hype and was extremely excited about this truck since last year. Now i'm disapointed, that my 50 k truck will not beat a stock L even from a roll- thats how i feel- All the hype and its not really where it should be- sure different than everything on the road is fine, and i will own up to the fact that i am young and do not have an endless supply of dough to do what ever i want, so maybe i am in part to blame for getting this truck too soon. Who knows i paid cash but that was total impulse too- just my thoughts- so Bullshit that
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